Pepakura helmet build
- Drakus Cin'Ciri
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Pepakura helmet build
I bought a rubies helmet for my royal guard and it turned out to be to deep. Since I haven't been able to find a single don post for sale I decided I would try my hand at pepakura. I am not new to scratch builds as I built most of the armor for my mandalorian mercs costume but this was my first try at pepakura
Depth comparison: Rubies vs Pepakura
Resined and smoothcast on the inside
Starting to smooth it with apoxie sculpt... much sanding to come
Let me know what you think. I would rather have feedback now as I am still smoothing it than when I try to get approved.
PS: And if anyone wants to trade a don post (or don post sized) helmet for the rubies send me a pm. that would save me a lot of sanding
Depth comparison: Rubies vs Pepakura
Resined and smoothcast on the inside
Starting to smooth it with apoxie sculpt... much sanding to come
Let me know what you think. I would rather have feedback now as I am still smoothing it than when I try to get approved.
PS: And if anyone wants to trade a don post (or don post sized) helmet for the rubies send me a pm. that would save me a lot of sanding
Re: Pepakura helmet build
Drakus,
You are probably one of the few that may be able to pull this off. Some have attempted this before, but the end results have not been close to a match. Probably due to the arduous process this requires. However, with the advancements that we see here, it appears you may be able to achieve Nirvana. You will be the first one to know, once the major sculpt is ready.
Be mindful of the sides of the helmet, specifically the part where it comes to rest on your shoulders. It looks like you have a shorter version, similar to that of a Shadow Guard, but not a Royal Guard. It is hard for me to tell, as the majority are side shots and not straight on. If you place a side by side comparison of your Rubies with the pepakura, it would make it easier to make a call.
You are probably one of the few that may be able to pull this off. Some have attempted this before, but the end results have not been close to a match. Probably due to the arduous process this requires. However, with the advancements that we see here, it appears you may be able to achieve Nirvana. You will be the first one to know, once the major sculpt is ready.
Be mindful of the sides of the helmet, specifically the part where it comes to rest on your shoulders. It looks like you have a shorter version, similar to that of a Shadow Guard, but not a Royal Guard. It is hard for me to tell, as the majority are side shots and not straight on. If you place a side by side comparison of your Rubies with the pepakura, it would make it easier to make a call.
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- Drakus Cin'Ciri
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
As requested
- Sascha_Wilsing
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
OK. The sides are a little bit too small. Please try to make it look more like the Rubies.
- Drakus Cin'Ciri
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
To make sure I understand properly before making changes:
The big problem is that the shoulders are a very steep angle and do not taper out because it follows the TFU model. To remedy I need to extend the shoulder making sure it comes to a more level angle (not completely flat but smaller than the current 45 degree slope)
Yes/no?
The big problem is that the shoulders are a very steep angle and do not taper out because it follows the TFU model. To remedy I need to extend the shoulder making sure it comes to a more level angle (not completely flat but smaller than the current 45 degree slope)
Yes/no?
Re: Pepakura helmet build
I do believe the shoulders need to come out more...the helmet your pep file is from looks to be a Shadow Guard which has the cut down shoulder slope. Look at the Don Post for another comparison:
I'm highly impressed with the work so far. I made a pep guard helmet for my son last year (just left it as paper and spray painted it red) so I know the work you've put into it. Good job!
I'm highly impressed with the work so far. I made a pep guard helmet for my son last year (just left it as paper and spray painted it red) so I know the work you've put into it. Good job!
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
Your thoughts are right Drakus.
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
A little history: Just like the official build for Stormtroopers in game models have been set to the ROTJ style. The same could be said for the Guard Helmets in the game along with the helmet design in Clone wars with the guard models. They are based on the final version of the guard helmets that were created in ROTS with those helmets being a narrower build.
Return of the Jedi - Attack of the Clones Style
Clone War Guard style
Revenge of the Sith - The Force Unleashed Helmet style
I hope this clears up any questions for anyone on the linage of the helmets.
Return of the Jedi - Attack of the Clones Style
Clone War Guard style
Revenge of the Sith - The Force Unleashed Helmet style
I hope this clears up any questions for anyone on the linage of the helmets.
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- Drakus Cin'Ciri
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
Cool beansSascha_Wilsing wrote:Your thoughts are right Drakus.
LuciousTalvloinne's post brought up a question for me though. This will be a ROTS build and he noted the ROTS helmet as being similar to the TFU and clone wars helmets which appears to be what the Pep file I used is modeled after. So is this helmet style valid for an ROTS build or is the ROTJ and AOTC style standard across the board for 501st approval?
Thank you everyone for the feedback and compliments so far!
- Drakus Cin'Ciri
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Re: Pepakura helmet build
I think I may have found my answer
Because it is Episode III I am aiming for it will need to taper out but to a lesser extent than if it was a II or VI build
Picture reference
Adding about a half inch to each side lowering the slope down should bring it very close to this reference pic
Because it is Episode III I am aiming for it will need to taper out but to a lesser extent than if it was a II or VI build
Picture reference
Adding about a half inch to each side lowering the slope down should bring it very close to this reference pic