Canadian ROTJ

The Imperial Royal Guard costume as seen in Return of the Jedi

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stripes wrote:Something like this...

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The inner robe for the "Gandalf" pattern is usually pretty straightforward. You just have to make sure that there is no opening at the front of the neck and that the robe is modified to be the proper length.
Any link to the product, can't seem to find it.

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You'll want to check the patterns that are currently available at the store... They do tend to change periodically, but anything like the one I've shown you should be workable to generate the inner robe.
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Thoughts, it could be tailored if need be. https://www.amazon.com/McCall-Sewing-Pa ... B0045G0938

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The basic robe, known by so many names, is a timeless classic that has lasted for at least two millennia all around the eastern Mediterranean and across most of Asia. The modern dishdasha that I purchased in Baghdad, Iraq is almost the same as my early Byzantine and late Roman tunics that are reconstructed from archeological examples. Other than obvious modernizations like machine sewing, the differences are really just modernizations on the collar and the sleeve cuffs, and decorative embellishment stylings. This piece really was the easiest part of my RG costume. It is essentially a loose fitting long sleeved shirt that extends down to ankle length.

McCalls, Simplicity, and other pattern vendors all recycle this same robe pattern with slight variations to bundle into most of their costume packages. This includes the wizard robe in the fantasy costumes that Stripes linked, as well as historically based costume sets like the "passion play" patterns that are likely in abundant supply and on sale at your local stores right now, with Easter around the corner. It is such a basic and simple pattern that it can be used for so many purposes with just small changes here and there.

Just be sure to make any necessary adjustments to the pattern you do find, in order to follow the guidelines of the CRL and the screen images from the movies. Cooldevo already gave a pretty good rundown of those in his post. In my experience, most of these patterns have very loose fitting sleeves. You will probably want to at least taper those into a somewhat tighter fitting cuff, if not slim down the whole length of it. You may also find it helpful to add a wedge into the side seams for extra leg room.

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Starwarsgeek18 wrote:I am on a bit of a budget with this so I'm trying to keep things simple for my brother so patterns would be preferred.
Fair enough, but I don't personally see how buying a pattern and then modifying it is cheaper and/or simpler. The inner robe is about as simple a design as you'll ever need to sew. If the material wasn't velvet, I would have done the inner robe myself and I am by no means a seamstress of any caliber.

For the outer robe especially, I'd strongly suggest doing a mock-up in muslin (my seamstress used a bed sheet she found cheap). It'll add a small cost, but once you cut the velvet there's no going back. Getting the outer robe to lay right can be tricky enough, even more-so if you leave yourself only one shot to get it right.

In the end, all we can do is offer advice, take what you want and leave what you want. We are here to help as best we can from our experiences.

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And I appreciate it all, my poor brain right now is just trying to run through all possibilities for this, like I'll definitely look for a good seamstress around here, always good to have a backup though. :trsuit:

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Starwarsgeek18 wrote:Thoughts, it could be tailored if need be. https://www.amazon.com/McCall-Sewing-Pa ... B0045G0938
Yes something like this would work as the base. You'll just have to make sure that the front is a solid piece without the slit down the chest and remove the fancy collar.
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Starwarsgeek18 wrote:And I appreciate it all, my poor brain right now is just trying to run through all possibilities for this, like I'll definitely look for a good seamstress around here, always good to have a backup though. :trsuit:
If your brother can sew, even with basic skills, he should be able to do the inner robe without too much of an issue. I'd say if you are ever up in Ottawa stop by and you can check out mine... but that'd be a bit of a long hike just for that. :D

I did up my inner robe with cotton velvet, and am really really glad I paid the extra for it over the synthetic. Cotton velvet is washable in the washing machine, and will air dry quite nicely. If you don't have the material yet, something else to keep in mind and really worth the upgrade. You'll sweat on the inner robe, especially on a hot and muggy outdoor day.. Some days mine is quite moist, and the fact I can just chuck in the machine is great. I run it on a cold wash on the delicate cycle, and then hang to air dry. No problems yet.

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cooldevo wrote:
If your brother can sew, even with basic skills, he should be able to do the inner robe without too much of an issue. I'd say if you are ever up in Ottawa stop by and you can check out mine... but that'd be a bit of a long hike just for that. :D

I did up my inner robe with cotton velvet, and am really really glad I paid the extra for it over the synthetic. Cotton velvet is washable in the washing machine, and will air dry quite nicely. If you don't have the material yet, something else to keep in mind and really worth the upgrade. You'll sweat on the inner robe, especially on a hot and muggy outdoor day.. Some days mine is quite moist, and the fact I can just chuck in the machine is great. I run it on a cold wash on the delicate cycle, and then hang to air dry. No problems yet.
Might be heading out to Ottawa CC, so we could meet up. At this point I'm still looking around at prices and such for fabric, so I haven't bought anything as of yet, from the search I did I really like the look of the crimson velveteen so I'm kinda leaning towards that at this point, I'll keep my eyes open though for sure.

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I'll definitely be at OCC. The CCG usually has a pretty decent size booth there. I'll be there in all my RG glory, as it's the only costume I have at the moment, two more are in the works the closest to done won't be until summer or fall this year.

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